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4th Dimension Recovery Center 042416

Apr 19, 2016|

AN INTERVIEW WITH WINSTON MURRAY AND TONY VEZINA FROM THE 4TH DIMENSION RECOVERY CENTER AND NICK SMIT, GM WITH GRESHAM SUBARU, ABOUT THE WORK THEIR SOBER CENTER DOES WITH RECOVERING YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE PORTLAND METRO AND THE DONATION MADE BY GRESHAM SUBARU.

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This is meant to scope and Entercom radio Portland public affairs program under his blocks of the mission of the fourth dimension recovery senator is to provide a fun and safe environment for young people in drug and alcohol recovery to take action. Build communities. Gain knowledge and become empowered. And that's what we wanna talk about on the show today I'd like to welcome Winston Marie executive director of the fourth dimension recovery senator. And Tony visit also with the fourth dimension recovery center and Nick Smith. The general manager of aggression Subaru book Demitra scope. Thank you clearly evident thanks. Certainly no Gresham Subaru is made of pretty large monetary donation to the fourth dimension recovery center which will talk about just a few minutes. But I wanna find out bowed from Winston what exactly is the fourth dimension recovery center. Yeah. The ordinance recovered that there is primarily at that airport. For you and tell what we do is provided safe and fun environment. Or young people in recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. How did you start the organization. Have has come a long story. It started about five years ago and I'm glad I'm a young guy in in recovery from drug and alcohol addiction and through a previous employer I was able access old warehouse and I would simply just. Hang out and no where else you know as someone who's young and recover it does not only sober. One year old at the time in Portland. And it was really is really. Important that we had to play the belt was safe place that we could just go and you'd think that party that party existed but it didn't. And I've asked myself why are we hanging out and parking lots are we hanging out and you know parking garage it is see him getting rained done and there is there's no place to go and his warehouse became available upward short amount time and shortly thereafter a lot of people started calling me out and hang out in this warehouse and all of the people who were calling me our other young people. In recovery in Portland and it became clear to me in the owner of the building at the time that. There was this huge need for a place to go a safe place for young people in recovery from drugs and alcohol to go. And that that's kind of how the ordinance in the ignited at that point we decided to to get our nonprofit status and you know provide a place. Was safe and fun for young people in recovery. So you kinda getting out of the way of your addictions. By Palestinian safe place. Absolutely yeah I mean it you know we're still were young we still wanted to have fun is still wanna do all the normal things young people should be doing. They kept close you know we were also over so. You know. When you're that young I think there's parties really still want to be hit in and that it doesn't mean your life so we're just because you having to be sober at that time it. You can still have fun so we definitely kind of sustained yeah then out of our own way or serve but all the other places available to us that the time work. Were nightclub send you know war or not we're not. Conducive to young people in recovery. So what kind of activities happen at this didn't disturb that they recovery center. Yeah we are primarily we hope Daley called that meeting. We offers social gatherings. We mostly their games. Dances and other community based does that. And is there a cost to get in there or not okay. This is the sounds like a very unique thing. It is as it definitely unique but the concept behind it is really simple I think so simple that. People are idiots who that'd be this but it doesn't. Yeah pave the way it conceived by people would have dug in preconceived notion. How commute do you think that this doesn't exist so far whereabouts of your organization. There's a lot of there's a lot of options for. Poor people of treatment and drug and alcohol treatment and I think. Historically speaking that's been the main focus you know and when someone is in in desperate need. Forward detox and immediate treatment needs I mean. There's this huge demand for that and that's. That is very. You know we're pretty lucky importantly and and Puerto have a lot of options for that. But the problem is that we found you know if you know you're a inpatient treatment program you gal. And also and you're sober in even if you wanna live at sober life and you've gone through they're really intensive ninety day inpatient treatment program. You know life still happens on nice terms and eventually you're gonna have to get a job eventually you're gonna have to learn how to live the last. Freed from drug and alcohol addiction which is really difficult for young people because of that at that. Critical time your life. You are you still find out who you wanna be is an individual and you know even if he's won a little lack of recovery hasn't been so burned frequent drug alcohol addiction all of your peers and all of society really quality of the direction that in order to socialize you need to have guns and alcohol and to what the port commission does is. I don't fill that void and offers. Young people. A place to go after the and build a life you know so we really. Provide more importantly provide the social hub for young people in recovery and we also. You know we also have his mentor program as well. It must be a really great environment to house. This a secure feeling alone in this sort of situation have peers around you that can that definitely identify with where your coming from and where you're going to and probably where you are right now. Absolutely I think that's one of the most important things about our organization is that its use Ron you'd organized. And and for young people so when someone walked then might be press other treatment are not really wanted to be sober. They walked in the quickly realize that there's a hundred plus people in this phase hang now blossomed late and doing all the normal things. You know it's one year old Serb young people should be doing it. And they quickly realized that none of those people are court mandated to be there they're there because they wanna be there. Rosenfeld says it is until more about the mentoring program. Beyond that of an alert. Totally seek. OK I don't mind Tony that not. Co-founder and current mentor kit a director at the port dimension. I think a lot of what went and said. About this being a community that sort of driven organization we have young people in recovery running that. And and what we know is that. Experience. Based services are really powerful and what I mean by that is. We've got people who have the experience of getting sober going through all the falcons tribulations. Coming out the other end and for them to be there without experiencing grief hello rocketed to the door I pay. My name's Tony I'm not meant sort of orgy. I got sober I know what you're going through and I can help you navigate this propped up the bill the level of trust with those individuals. Because it where we differ from treatment if he has you know political professionals there working with people and maybe they get quit doing it either. They treat me cal player you know thirty minute the day they go to go to classes. It people. That works for some people but what we know that the the country haven't been perfect. Until we operate at different approach. That event was fine with you know hip hop. Let me date we have met quit beating people up and CNET taking people he's FEMA picking people that job interviews walking into the process. So it is just really great really great to have that kind of experiences based approach. They say this is there and initially we kind of talked about how this is a place to quote unquote hang out but they're definitely is some structure to the fourth dimension recovery summer correct. Yet that yet there's definitely some structure. They we have a event but learned that there are recovery oriented. You know we focus on the slope that approach but we also allow people. As they're pathway recovery. I couldn't go to church you're gonna call it can help them get into school. We can help them get jobs get partnership with at the organization. For example and on the president of for the community college in vice president of relationship with them we ought to get people to go there get there edu or get a little quiet says I know about twenty people I've helped. Are going to college. Is that kind of where we differ from treatment is. I think pick somebody to what I've cute for the community college and rolled into the entire process in any kind that they need additional help picking combat support you get it. So there is that such a bit but the really flexible and non critical. Yet at the editing your. Really important to note for the listeners that we're not a treatment center where we're nonprofit does not caught anybody that says search services. And for the young listeners is really important to realize that everyone who started this several the whose death at the port mention all the volunteers and all the crime that he served for all within. The same age demographic which is 35 and under. So you know I think it's really hard for a good listeners are our most young people could imagine a life you know. Free from drug and alcohol abuse and had a lot of people out there who you don't drink and they you know. They experiment with drugs then they're able to manage. Life you know it and that's that's OK there's a lot of other people out there. That we don't talk about who struggle on the day to day basis. Who loved who can't manage and this is the port commission is for them and I think it's important to realize that everyone who's involved in our program has been through. A lot and this has. Hey you know a lot of dark sides to this committee and is really looking for a way out looking forward to better their lives were not religious but we're not affiliated with any religion or not. We don't have any angle you know it it's just for people. Who come in and get better and help other people assembled that. How prevalent do you think of that drug and alcohol abuse is in the Portland area. Com. Well we know that or again. Ranks pretty high and you'd that the drug use. You know that pat here bird. He drug use or Henry Ford. We're raking pretty high that I think we know it that or again. Rank about third in high school drop out. And put that need a lot of kids do or you are dropping out of high school and I can't say that the direct correlation. With drug youth. But when you have you know your board it is lady carried in the percentage of kids are using god that your sport. In the Americans are dropping out of high school they had to be some sort of correlation there. Yeah for sure they say this is for people that are under the age of 35 but how young Dari and how young to people need to be become in. They've fit are you working with high school students. Well. Anybody can come into the port led to any camera OP community center so I think hit. There is only ten to twelve years old and asking people there are 65 who come to meetings you know the older son out. You know AKA the lead got older guys they come in and helped mentor that's really community didn't think we don't. So much go to high school can tell you preventative care that does not what does not within our mission but if somebody comes in and asking for help we don't and avoid. Okay that makes perfect sense. How about the people out there who maybe you like him a young person who has a parent who's an alcoholic or drug abuse or can they commanding gets support as well. Maybe they're not a user themselves. You know there you know we are you drawn recovery clubs for use and we get to the values you know under the age of 35 so all our mentors and all of the people that we serve within our mentor program are at thirty pages 35 and other. So but that doesn't mean that you can't come to the port mention any good to talk that these meetings that are held there pulses that there's no age limit on that but. Specifically regarding our mentor program is 35 and under. And as of now we're certainly people in Multnomah County. Since we we hope to expand in the future and back to your question about somebody who maybe doesn't have. An addiction problem but there. The parent does and they're the relief for some support well we don't let the let and Everett in everything. What we do that patent integrated services that other community partners so. We we are trained immigrants are trained to know community resource that the leak silicone that maybe there. Severely mentally ill. Beyond what we can do to help them we know it that if people we know the place that cost without we just felt so somebody eight no we can't help you. You know yes believe we go to recurrent somebody to. Resource that they need. We can. Talk about some of the results you've you've you've achieved. Well you know just looking back. Feel for where we started and how this thing started this is probably one of the most. Grassroots. You know efforts. Portland has seen you know I mean this is just start out at a warehouse with a bunch of young people as fast forward. Five and a half years later we have a great remodeled. Brand new. Locations on M okay. Just remind them okay. And then we employs six people all who are young people who you just spent the last five and a half years volunteering their time. In support of the fourth dimension. So badly in itself. Showed that is a huge demand and shows that you know we had a lot of success in it and there's a need for it and his mentor program we've seen. Doesn't numerous cases. Young people who were struggling one person in particular I won't name any names but. About a month ago I took him. And mama and wolf went to the airport and we want is security and we lost him fly up out of playing too good to. Inpatient treatment center in Texas end. At the time viewers shooting heroin in that and he was Tony result from his players all. They're not later you. In Portland and he has been active and because that means he's been active within our mentor program. I'm one of his mentors Tony also mentors and and he's someone who has sequence clean up heroin. And and shooting left and no doubt in my mind that what mentioned has put partisan and the black. That's really great. It's worth and I could tell you that story at least. You know about access. There's been there's a lot of success that put her out about what meant to recovery center but. So we we partner with like local. And they're nonprofit that you treatment services and it. One of those deploy use and so well what we'll do we'll pick it up from the Cubans that are there but I don't think about the plot that meeting did that this stuff. Well we opted to go big event said the hip hop parties and stuff and last summer. That big event. And some of the kids were able to come from the all you bet they bring them over to the event somewhere because they're on restriction for behavioral you know problem. Well kid broke out of the treatment better. They come to what dimension to go to it over party and the other treatment or passover freaking out they know what to do they call the cops. Other cops came we talked to them. And really there wasn't anything that they can you because they've never heard. Of young people breaking out of treatment. To go to their recovery oriented event and so on their mind they're like we we can't punish the kid and why that. They Devlin picked at it because it showed that like an eighth slot beat out ought not it is thought about attraction. Rather than promotion. And that's one of the a lot of these we've built to put cement in on where we're attractive to young people. The young people wanna come to afford either not mandated by the courts people are walking and out of their own admission to come. That is very cool. Well I've been to and expect to see that no no. That's that's what the they introduce once again Nick Smith who is the general manager Gretchen Subaru no Christian Subaru has been involved with fourth dimension recovery center. Nick tell us how you're involved. A couple of years ago for a month Soviet story about his two Q is there had been through ice and treatment centers course. And they get back to Portland there's six in ninety gay inpatient. Recovery centers for teens. I get back to Portland and they go to. But it means there's an element to all people. And pretty soon they didn't want you reconnect with their friends they look back to their friends and actually you know they're using it and I can hear his. He's the program and and I've got five kids so in great need for this and and so to participate with you Bruce helped him in their shared love of our last few really good year this year was even better. Assume ruse been. Generous on this that there should loan program in building over 65 million dollars to charities over the last five or six years I'm glad to be a part of that was listed as this group this group is impressive to me do things the right way there's a huge need for it important deluged new port across United States. I'm glad to be involved person on the right now. Now for sure though you guys may have pretty hefty monetary donation direct. Yes we did as well just 46000 and change. We're just do it makes me feel they're probably gonna make them feel sorry about them. That's really impressive. Yeah I was a good job. Tony and Winston what does it mean to have such support from Gershon Subaru. It's amazing without without that support we would have been able to get into other locations so last year you know we're able to participate in the share the love of and and that gave us. The funds necessary to. Did that building that right now which is an amazing space and it's got everything in more than we ever dreamed of busier than the money raised is gonna go to a couple of different things should really. What focused on securing allocation and eventually purchased that without a locations we've we don't have anything that's really important to us to support. To secure that location and also focus. You know it's expanding and growing our mentor program you know I'm entered his right now I'm. It there's one individual I picked up. And don't have any food do you have any European or anything like that and bloom he went up almost we're able to get him into housing but. You have any money and I found myself more often than not paying out of pocket. For these kids to have lunch which is something I think that the community should step up and I'll hope outlet. So I'll be you know. Money the money raised from special super right now is gonna really focusing on by the building and expanding our mentor program. Other ways for our listeners to help out. Absolutely you have our web site is pretty full. Can you recovery dot org that's just the digit four. The recovery dot org. And click on the donate button is definitely a litre to help us help solve sign up to be about the donor and you are quarterly whatever it is. We also have volunteer opportunities as well also you know cut contacting us on our website step for the best tool that they have some FaceBook to find out about. New event that we have brought it's also great report mentioned recovery center on FaceBook. Yes. And how about says somebody who wants to get in touch with your organization and maybe needs some help how can they do that. They'd call our main line which is listed on our website and our FaceBook as well and we're open seven days a week. We open on weekdays from three as soon all 11:11. PM. And on weekends we really hit catered to a younger crowd but obviously you're we opened the doors at 11 AM and were open until one. So. Call eight times between those hours or legal some message otherwise wouldn't be happy to be back at you. If somebody new comes to your door hum kind of walked me through what they can expect who were on their first visit in May be done on. Other visits as well. Com I get so. They typical Friday night have been around 5 o'clock the moon walk through the Portman at the door. They're utopia lounge area they're gonna be you know big flat screen TV there will likely be. The younger people playing. Yet or on their you know called beauty kids like to play that let people come and play. Beat somebody get there at the front desk kind of an open area. Selling drinks and stuff. That you walk into the lap of like I people play who have a big group Marie quote book that meeting event on people playing pool pink pong. People hey you know maybe people meeting with there aren't there and in doing and step word people out that that you know out back. They being here hanging out based viewpoint to card game just kind of depend. But it ran around you know 8 o'clock which is our typical meeting time and they get good time that meeting wanna both. There meeting that forty note Friday night you'll find at roughly a hundred people every Friday night go to a big AA meeting. That's it's pretty organized like that did you get everything your own home. What do you see for the future of fourth dimension. Our hopes. Is that. Again that we can we can really secure they send. Headaches and then beyond that you know right now we're limited as did all the Italian only did have circled on the county but in the last five years. People who've contacted me at all across the country until it. To have visited witnessed or heard about it that people from New York Major League taxes California. Seattle all call me and talk to me about how to start something similar to the port lessen our hope is that we can really. Track our success rate and and really you know organize our operations Mano in order to take into other counties and other major cities. Down the left coast and and also we can help other people out into the huge need for everywhere. PI doesn't do great work. Also as far as the mentor program note. You know I'm pretty tired of people getting blocked out in being trapped. In the prison industrial complex and what I mean by that there's this rotation that happens the people the kind of ridiculous that this system. There they go years with an address alcoholism and addiction and they don't get any help to let what I have been working on. Is getting our mentors stability going to county jail. It started mentoring people before they leave jail to that they have some sort of plan when they hit the ground that some sort of support because without that support. Wouldn't it be people. Can you get out of jail not have anywhere to go and not know what did you have no resources on the field. Who live. You know productive socialite. Ended that can continue to get. Locked up at bat for them that that for the taxpayers that they heard their families to record their children they can't reconnect with. That's that that you people demand for programs helping people learn jail. You break that cycle yeah. Excellent you guys are doing just amazing work a really wanna congratulate you on the richter doing great and thanks so much for being a microscope today. We've been talking with Winston Maria and Tony miss now with the fourth dimension recovery senator and Nick Smith the general manager aggression Subaru. Microscope is an Entercom radio Portland public affairs program I'm Gary blocks and if you have a nonprofit or public affairs organization that you'd like to let others know about. You can email me. My email address is microscope that inter com dot com. Remember Pinter column start to the east and you can always go to this station's website click on the community link and submit your information there. If you'd like to hear this program again you can visit our website at microscope PDX dot com thanks for listening about just go and enjoy the rest of your week.