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The Tech Academy 071617

Jul 12, 2017|

AN INTERVIEW WITH ERIK GROSS AND BRETT CAUDLE WITH THE TECH ACADEMY ABOUT THEIR CODING BOOT CAMP, TECH TRENDS, AND THE TECH INDUSTRY IN GENERAL.

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This is a metro stop and Entercom radio Portland public affairs program from Gary blocks. In this time on microscope we're gonna talk tactics and how you can get started in the industry would protect academy. On the show this time I would like to welcome Eric gross and Brett Connell from the tech academy guys behind it. So love the tech academy you sounds like something to do with. Computers. Writes absolutely okay yet there are according to camp. Coding boot camp. First of all what is coating. Coding is computer programming. Use the program's all day long and most of us have a lot of experience in in in that in this modern world. But it a code or programmer developer these are all words for the people that actually create. Those programs we're gonna use use Microsoft Word all day long and a team with people made that program seeking news. Good change from no programmers to Carter's. It's all mainly in the same thing you hear a lot of terms bandied about because frankly we are relatively new industry at. All of like fifty years old you don't know many many got professions have been out there for thousands of years. And the terminology and it is still a bit of a liquid thing sell a code or developer or. And engineer and a lease terms very often means something about the same thing okay. So and let's talk about including boot camp or has coding boot camp. William tit. To be honest I couldn't Luka camp is a really. Is really a how well it it Qaeda is what it what is sounds like it's an immersive have. Type of education. To where you know students will spend. Quite a bit of time in fact be it in Dottie full time schedule. I'll learning coding and and they do that of course in order to I eventually. Get employed in the industry. So it's kind of like I've heard of Lincoln fitness boot camps Regis go and you have in these intense workouts so it's kind of the same thing your exact moves into the world yeah it's it's exactly you know how it sounds boot camp does it is a boot camp no matter what you. You know it industry. Where we're talking about so how does this boot camp differ from going to like a regular college. You know this so we only had a lot I don't come from the traditional caught backroom on the co founders school in my background. In terms of computers you again from the navy from high school from on the job training you know as an adult. And I don't have that traditional computer science degree. But we're lucky enough to have as one of our chief Craig whom advisors. The head of the computer science department torch washing diversity and he's the doctor brought both and he and I got a lot of conversations about this. And it didn't principal difference is that a person who goes to a computer science degree do you have a really really deep understanding a lot of theory behind. And computing and and it did it did designs are theoretical principles behind programs and computers. But I'd suffered a boot camp graduate. Will be a little light on though it's been very very heavy on practical skills they will be able to immediately be put to work in an employer. Oh by an employer and Nash who produced. Quality products from from minute one. They're gonna have to study a lot over time to deal to get to the point where they actually understand those deeper principal's computer science but they can be valuable right away. So. Media computer science dream tells you the workings of a computer and and and in boot camp tells you. How to use yes study variant actually younger yeah so what kind of software. Things are out there now what are we learning. We you know that's that's fun a moving target and when you might that is that this is an incredibly fast changing industry. And so. Our curriculum is. Each one with dynamic elements of what we do because we can change Chris come on a dime based on what's going on out in the world so. You currently do that they're run down bro when you share with them like that the lay out that the course is kind of tells what technology you're most popular right now. Yeah exactly and this is this is one of the differences between. Us and many other regulatory boot camps that we. We start from the very beginning you literally. Don't. Half to have any previous knowledge so as long as you you know you'd. Knew you like computers and and Yemen interest in this sort of thing. But basically. What you're looking is. You know programming fundamentals such as html CSS JavaScript. Again instead databases things like that so that you can. Actually store information. And then and then retrieve that information so it's. It's. It's it's it's it's quite a process into quite a few things too I know and and you're the winner when all is said and done. You know our goal is to. Is to make sure that our students are well rounded developers so they can go out there and really fill. The positions that are demanded. The more pin positions are out there what's the job force like. There's well first of all is a law it is pretty stunning when I look at creating this business about five years ago warned that the first things I found out my research was that. And department labor was projecting that within the next seven years from that point. And it would we be facing a shortage of about a million tech workers the available output of all of training institutions was about. 40000. Professionals a year. And over a ten year span so make 400000 professionals and when you one point four million of that period so we get tied down a million. That's situation is only you can thing you know become a little more extreme they're so much demand for technical talent. It doesn't mean anybody who can you know spell html can just get a job you really do you have to have. Good soft skills and be tenacious be good communicate or be in new and work well others because credence offers a teen activity. But it does mean that if you play yourself when you're through our program we needed immediately boot camps out there and and our our Willies just work really hard you've basically got job security. Which is a really really nice thing in the spinach. It seems like in Portland then in the West Coast in general Seattle San Francisco there's a lot of tech people around so it seems like we're a bit flooded with tech people we say here there's more needed to. Yeah it's it's it's really interesting that you met there Kabul and sort of armed. Long term myths that like to float throughout the tactical industry. One most predominant ones is that every time something really cool just developed countries how to make software. I happen faster and have more of it like don't automatically this is tradition the computer perimeter become obsolete. And you may concern like drag and drop and create computer programs and who don't have jobs and more. Our first true that in 1980 she. The peace and pleasantries and it is true now you'll always be neat for people who consult problems you can think with. Complicated. In her locked systems and what points in them can break down and how did diagnosed when something isn't working well. That's part were a programmer does eat a lot of his conceptual and and and held in the mind. And that requires very fast style thinking it requires an extreme tenacity and of course being able to think like computer. And end that may never go away. The same is true for the number of jobs that are out there eaten there really is absolutely no sort of like saturation of the market I hear on the West Coast. Not really anywhere that we've seen. A pardon is the entrepreneurial mindset we have here in organ is always knew actually he's new technology can spring up the other part of it. Is it there has been a shortage for a very long time so we're not come close to filling. Well. Let me ask you what are the jobs that are out there what. Will. Really anything. This there or there are so many jobs out there is it's tough to even. Even in annual come compile a list so we've got things from. You're working with does science of course web development but let me just. I'm going to web development. Specifically because that is. That's. Predominantly well we. Involve ourselves and so we think of something just like I'm Amazon.com. For example. Europe working with the the front end is programming back and program in which show also has to do it databases. Like I said. Earlier. You have to be able to store. Information and then retrieve it so so really anything in. Well most everything these young lion. In is in some form or another a web application and so that it is. So so if you just keep that it if you keep that in mind you can really imagine it. Near the the job opportunities that are out there and and the different kinds of things you might be involved and. Yeah our graduates and up and lots of different places they could be quality assurance testers can be project managers it would be just straight on developers they could. Specialize in certain area like Brett says in involving databases thicker. I'm just beat on the front end like that the user interface and just designed the most awesome user experience and visuals and that sort of thing. We prepare them for NASA sort of special station frankly. Most people wouldn't get him the boot camp. They just wanna get into the industry and start a job and they start to form an opinion after doing it for six months a year eighteen months it all this is the area I really really enjoy. And the beat make you can become the more specialized. There's so many different options out there that CE you'll find a niche for what you really really enjoy doing. Just getting started is this part of the broad plan until you go diving and gaps in the don't. What kind of job specifically are there in Portland I'll man Portland's awesome. He's so let's say you're an old geezer like me I thought of and you really want that traditional sort of like business environment something corporate like. A problem it's health plans are PG ear that sort of thing. Long term established companies. There's tons of jobs like that they're really great they have really release that was methodologies. And you that you got that that straight from a large organization. Those jobs are awesome right. There's also a really vibrant start community here in the agreed to kind of thing where you are you willing to take risky just. Jumping with something we you know you're not going to be never much in the beginning but DV Malcolm could be fantastic their jobs like that as well right and everything in between there's lots of places it. They're principal plate you thing they do is is even software. And like Providence for example there and health care but they have a tremendously strong. Tactical part of their their organization they have to write. So there. It's as varied as the economic landscape because. Every single element of the economy has used technology in some way now. There really isn't genius keeping it. So when you work firstly Providence do you or bureau of software person fourth Providence you work for Providence are really higher third parties to come into that kind of stuff that's another really simple question how important is ready unique in that there's so there's not a really good mix of both. Things it's quite colleague and he has hired on as as. An employee that is also very common to just be a contractor. Is unique in Oregon here how it works so if you actually get hired by or were cream company is staffing company you're there employee. And they place you at one of the places they have a contract. For example PGE. Yeah we utilizes its relatively often where you'll yet as a developer a job through a staffing company and our associates who work. And that company Vander Helen hires you. And then places you Matt PGE or you know when the other half it's so you're still an employee but you're not. Employee where you're working OK it's quite common actually look at. What kind of tech companies are moving to Portland. Other other companies come and in the the love it here is really your PDI AG fascism and where you know the mayor talked about arm at the school in in September but this one of the things she's gonna addresses. Yeah with the fact that and there are probably answer questions yes it's all there are increasing number of companies are on setting up shop here there's Amazon Web Services arm out and guys. Government here this. I intuit has got offices here some the real big you know companies that have. They're base say in the Bay Area aura and Seattle are are opening offices here and there are a lot of stars dress is succeeding here but. And one of the things that we we have attention on cause obviously as you know an integral member of the community here the technology beat is. How do we keep the culture that we we all hold dear you know being or onions. And not let him be influenced by. Did rat race we are kind of pictures Silicon Valley as Newton because he's only great things here you can't tell you what it it is really cool you developer here at Morgan. Because work life balance actually means something here you work really hard you're expected to solve very very challenging problems seem to pay really well fort and at me a lot of pressure on you work. But most of the time most jobs. When you leave. You leave the work at home and you go home you be with your family you look at you know I know and climbed the mountain or you go whatever it is. You're done with work and it's it's outside I have talked to his generalities but I have talked to developers were found in the Bay Area. And has a tendency to be a bit more all embrace of of one's time and life. Yeah I've heard it's some people do you boom you get so congested though you have to live in the neighborhood where you work until you kind of never leave it right at you Betty have until now our commute. Right fit into there is that so it takes four hours a few days to make you do your job figure out for ten hours a day and there's rose personally hours knew exactly no bank with. So that's what's cool about being here you can you can go to your coding boot camp here in Portland and you can get a job here in Portland Eric. So you can. Definitely. You learn your Portland and it doesn't really matter where you live honey you're gonna go to find. Work almost everywhere. And more innings needs technology which is basically everywhere. Oh that's funding about technologies you don't miss really have to be exactly where it is very commute. That's the magic of the Internet you can you can be anywhere all the time exactly yeah that's exactly right so what makes the tech academy different then other boot camps around him. Well you know the whole concept is who here we covered that at the top of this to you that intensive training we do completely offered that but. There couldn T do that that they set us apart just logistically and then as a philosophy behind how we teach majestically. We are opener Roma people can start any time a lot of these who came to by the way. Boot canceled their out for four hard years where new industry. And the like who camps on. Do you start all on the scene gave his old group review your call a cohort and you all move in lock step through a program. Our program is open enrollment people starting time and self paced which is a very unique thing. Not a mailers in the same pace when things we actually want to avoid if at all possible was someone getting. No lagging behind the rest of the class so to speak and given that incredible pressure and somehow. Compromising. What they're learning and just rushing through it would much rather graduates someone took a little bit longer. But they really know they're data and they can actually apply on the job. The vans don't do what well I I got through at the time limit I'm supposed to do. But I'm not very certain and all I'm doing we want certainty here are graduates and that's that's what we Fiat does it make yourself based program. Is this a bit do you go to school at the tech academy irresistibly cute homer can you do a little bit to be sure. Look at what's that yes you can absolutely. When works. Who work there or on site as we we like to call it and done you know that's what we we prefer. You know it just it just so happens when a students is there on site with us. And they and generally in just get more work done and work more effectively of course we have. Instructors. Staff members that will be there to help you out. One on one end. But at the same time we are flexible to where students can actually study. Remotely and really anywhere that you have an Internet connection. You can name you can work on our program. Tell me about your students you have nineteen year old Su sixty year old. This is really really cool this is it is what I expected when when we caught up in the program together. We have incredibly wide variety of people won't mean in terms of demographics. And there's there's principally. To retrieve sort of broad. Public groups we have we have young folks sure you know between you know eighteen and you know 28 Vic yeah home. Are just now really. One to enter the workforce you know career. And may have been a Bristow owned driving through Berlin to whatever it. And they're looking to get something out in terms of technical skills he can really set them up well. The we have all other category which is. Adults who really dual lateral transition to life trying to create transition but they really don't want to. Take got a tremendous pay cut in doing usually they have. A lot of situations like that make it's who'd be quite difficult to go to school for four years or taking huge pay cut in new career. And technology is really great because. Want it pays well but too if you have lots of years of experience in in in the workplace. That please do your job search and you get better and more well paying rolls and the third one. It did as a real but a techie I really enjoy that match I believe we're gonna computers since I was eleven I'm just a die in the more on their right with the kids. People who left the industry for five to ten years. And kick it back again. This industry moves so fast that if you aren't doing it as you for being a professional activity for I have to Decatur or more. You can get just lost in the woods and you're you're you're locked behind and things and but you've been moved beyond you and you need that what is the creek technology sat. That people are using on the job. Those folks from the get retrained they get fantastic jobs. He were saying earlier it's a really collaborative. Type of industry right. Hey did you actually. You need is kids. If your goal isn't just. Stereotype about no purge of Google nerd you know talked a little cubicle you are surrounded by yellow Star Wars memorabilia and nobody bothers me is different underneath us coding all day along with the not true not true at all. There's days of one person being able to create a large computer program. Are decades old. It is a very teen activities clapboard F activity when things that we do that sets people wealth that is a liar project. Who ready and he actually came through the ranks as. Our our first graduate it was her first employee and so he can tell you a bit more about what that's like actually recreate that work environment. For the student unlike project. Yeah you know that that's really one of well it's it's another thing that they're really sets us apart is that. You actually. You don't by the time you you learn the theory and the practical. Skills. It is. So critical. To come to the point to where where you can actually mimic the real life environments. And and tin know that. You know you have people that are better working on on your team. And and basically they're in the same boat as you know one knows it all and sound. And you all work together and what's amazing is you find that the people that you work with and this just is kind of it is somewhat stereotypical black. But the people you work with are just genuinely. Nice people and for whatever reason that is in this industry. And you you were at this peep these people and and they all love to hear to help each other out and you're all going for a basically the single so it's is quite an experience and done essential one that. Brittany what was sure how did you get into doing this or is what was your experience to from the beginning. Well before before I I got into this I did some. Yes I was some coding and on my own ends and I thought well you know why I am I enjoy the job they do now let but it. But to be honest I. I miss the point where I need to make a little more money I have family I have I have kids and and and I thought you know it's not just. It's not just about doing what you what you look to do although that that is a big part of of life of a whole lucky yeah and so I thought well I need to make some I need to make some money but I still wanna do something that I enjoy and I thought well. I enjoy this and and so. And so I got into it. And time. And I realize that. You know I didn't. Necessarily. Need to be the greatest scooter to achieving get a job I am extremely confident that I could've done a job. Fairly quickly. You know several different as are other companies and so so that's yeah that just a little bit about me and in blank. And the tech academy gave you that confidence right yeah exactly and it was an eighty. It wasn't this this. Yeah him too magical. The thing to where. Where we're I thought the only geniuses could could do this it was. It was something in actually palpable something that day you could really you know put your hands on hands and do even though I can count on experience. It did take a lot of work gradually and O canal I thought you I'm so that I thought it looks. I think you do and highlighted now he's employee number one for recent he's awesome. So they Vick can ask to what well at what point in your life did you make this decision to go wasn't review had been in the workforce and some other capacity before yeah. I didn't work work in. Public school system ends and I enjoyed putting what they did it. And but again it. You know nonetheless all about money but so I had a family and I thought well I. I'd like to make little more money so that's that's don't was one of the big reasons to be honest that time that I chose Ian industry and I think that's what. A lot of people do know in fact. Circuit. Live in we have about a minute or so tell me how people can get more information get involved and get to the tech academy probably easy CDU's just go to our website. Learn coding anywhere dot com. Learn coding you were dot com's altered to rhesus sources on there because you all how the program works and and that the next thing after that come down toward the school. EG two right here in downtown Portland where I sort of vital member of the technology got young here almost all kinds to meet up just. Come check it out see if you like the people and the environment. In the is there late to financial assistance available to return yeah I pretty cool armed group can charge you start to be a much more recognized element of the employment sector if you will there is programs from work source and but much of the outfits that kind of help. How people to getting to this is also I she relatively affordable. And the how common troussier earning potential. BE is just phenomenal our graduates averaged a 60000 dollars a year for jobs. Somebody is intrusive and Jim counselors on site they can come and chat with two Selig is this for Mir not for me actually Irish star direct air and and we can do a lot of that in person over the phone just. Go to the website and Collison. Missiles are easy to treat it with awesome. Could Joseph be on his third frozen brick tunnel from the tech academy thinks we limit the scope today I saw. Mitchell's bill is an Entercom radio Portland public affairs program I'm Gary blocks of if you're involved with a nonprofit or public affairs organization or do you have an idea for an upcoming show I'd like to hear from you. Visit microscope PDX dot com and submit your ideas you can also go to the station's website handsome richer information there. Thanks for listening to metals go and enjoy the rest of your weekend.