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Good morning I'm Sheila Hamilton welcome to I'm listening Portland does song we were just listening to buy logic. When he performed it at the grammys it led to triple the normal amount of calls to the national suicide hotline. 1802738255. The message. You're never alone there's always hope. And recovery from mental health problems is possible it's the one thing I wanna focus on in the next half and our. I lost my late husband to suicide twelve years ago. And I've devoted a decade of investigating. And writing about and speaking about. Suicide prevention I wrote a book you can check out called all the things we never knew chasing the chaos of mental illness. Because I think so much of the problem begins with our inability to actually talk about mental health problems. I provide a lot of resources for families that are going through crisis and most of all and with a message that your life is really important. And there are so many people who care about you. Today we're going to be joined by Dwight Holton he's the director of lines from life I now at what would you say is the most important thing. Figure operators in these people who are providing this help or doing for folks. Don't call counselors. Will tell you what they do the most important thing we do is. Very neutral person calling where there are and legitimate remote with some offense were there are. And help them understand where they are their compassionate about hearing and listening. To where a person is and struggling and their work with that person to find a way forward to find their ray of hope. Whether it's family member. Or friend or an experience. That's all there waiting to happen. As a positive place moving forward that person's life. And I just wanna talk about the need right now. Because it earlier you were outlining some numbers that were absolutely shocking to me in terms of the increase in people using these resources. And it should talk about paddle. We've seen a really remarkable phenomenon both hero and organ nationals whosoever shall lifeline and Momo lifeline nationwide. In the last about two years a little bit less than two years ago we went from really a really stable number of calls every year we did order. From twelve to 141000 people. In the last twelve months we've heard from 25000. And that growth has happened starting about October of 2016. And is undeniable it for growth because in nationwide and it's been more intense here in Oregon. Because you've. Actually said October 2016 and I immediately think about the election are many of the callers reporting that they haven't unease with what's happening on the national scene. So it doesn't get that specific. But I do think. We're seeing two factors driving this boredom. One of these very positive we've had some news or your exposure to Moscow for years both because those tries it to also profile folks went into boarding it and kids period but also because of aggressive efforts from folks lawyer for the artist logic. Who wrote a song dedicated. Two pretty. National crisis line that was nominated for an image. But on the more challenging side I think there is a generalized growing group of anxiety in him this leading to more calls it doesn't show all. Because I'm calling because I'm upset about this politician but it does go off. To show all those folks calling those two more interest. Our world seems to be centered around this kind of divisiveness we want people to be on the extremes you want people to be in the news all day long one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you. Was about the importance. Of allowing people says final little bit of hope in talking about this topic. First of all the number of people who die by suicide in orient is a really disastrous. Number. Nationally 45000 dragon someone who insisted there and so that's two times a day in more than two terms today we lose and they were. Two suicide. And I'm too I want to focus on the number of people who are saved. A lot of folks on the number of people who call and who find some some thing and something an operator says that helps them get on the path to recovery. Is it eight times that is it for every person that we lose is it eight times is it ten times what's the number. Well I can tell you some 95. Proposed glow about 95% of the calls we received. Are resolved without political homers and services. So we're able to talk to people. Older along. Aaron Miller calls range and acuity ride from people around there's two people remembered on their hand cranked and are ready to commit suicide on the wood somewhere. There on the those calls in 95 is a time we don't even have to call. Emergency services for all the usual we do Kohl loses her muscles for Arnold that's often how is a decent outcome it's not the best Stockholm. The best don't come as when you can get there without revenue of all the merchants are supposed. So we do know bit. We talked to thousands of people were able to help thousands of people and we've got to continue to grow that base ride that's. We need to be. And I think it's also where the focus should be. In talking about people. Who I had this thought is common when you're in despair is to have a thought that. You think you might be worth it to be over but what we should focus on is actually people who are getting through it. Whether it's with a combination medication and then families' support and there. Whatever it is we're asking people to do to actually bring those stories to light as well I've. I think culturally important and I think the other component that we emphasize allowance for life news the upstream prevention and so are you point emission of is a terrific Soros through those answers the calls those teens calling him crisis it's teen counselors so it's appeared to pierce or rooms. Both an essential component that services we take teams in to schools around Oregon. And helped teach policy team ready jurors. Two other teenagers we try and trained teenagers. So I understand that it's okay to ask for help and how best throw cause of freedom dual these told seeking skills early on when anxiety as are about the math toaster as opposed to something. More dramatic and frankly more dangerous. And we can altitudes hope themselves early on and not worry about. In the mediate is reflected that drug use is a way to forget your problems. Partying with your friends is a way to forget your problems. But the true. Building blocks of self care really aren't taught so if you are from a troubled home or you live in a neighborhood where you're not seeing a lot of examples of people living well and taking good care of themselves. One doesn't know how it's to south seuss we don't understand what meditation is we don't know about yoga and its benefits. It's not a train skill and something that we assume that people develop. But the reality news. Stressed. Young people feel from. Our relationship issue or are great bit of one until momma bow out or. Anything billions of hum into growing up stats to us is physiologically identical to mistrust the UR fuel when were trying to figure what to make a mortgage payment. Forwarding it to work that takes actually it might be more because we've had longevity. We have all this wisdom due at ten understand how many get through that I've had gone through hard things before I know I can do it. When you're that young you don't have that long view yet the. We have alleged harm most school golden. For our hopes he can write and for Solon for solving problems oil and gas tombstone so when they did that's Dresser that really physiologically shows are just like mistress as we feel yeah they don't have that tiger hum order of responses. That may call. Healthy OPEC and that's where our youth line. Really works for engaged as to help them develop their old seeking skills so we you know we can catch them when they called Oscars are out and about it because a bad grade. Maybe norm around obstacles dark or something more dire because we've helped build in the in this. Can skills if you just joining us today on I'm listing Portland I'm Sheila health and I'm here with two right Holden from lines for life you've talked a lot by young people today but. Have we also seen those similar increases in your veterans find. So we have we have grown the work our veterans on the national veterans crisis lines. Continues to reach more more veterans and fellow members career. We're part of such Eurovision. Veterans administration runs a couple lines back east and they have one contract person memory loss to help them meet their volume and yes we received a continue to grow. We've also just launched you're in Portland. Oh and clever with caucus count your senior loan limits law and because lower you are right we tend to focus on young people. Alder could reason we're investing in our future red we're trying to build the future but the reality shows. Does suicide numbers become much more problematic for external. Yeah and so this enormous line is intended start to try and chip away and provide support and strength for folks who has vision and they go through the challenges of getting older like losing friends and losing your place in this and suppose we're nor. And we're real excited about the service. I've always of the mindset that just as we kind of know how to send someone to the hospital fern eat or your firm broke Elaine we should. Have the number for alliance for life in our pockets of those if you see someone who's in crisis and they don't know what to do you can actually say there's help out there. That's exactly right and and it's really important when your. When you're talking with someone about their structures to help them understand their resources there's hope there's a way forward. And I'd love to see our phone number or what is wrong. What are you can then number now Jordan can reached a crisis slime any time three veterans to burgers in your corner for a stood at 180273. Talk. Where there are ready to go. As time this is a good time for the logic signed to commend my yeah. I hate Suzanne. Time could you. Really did tie game with you and we missed anything at all. No I just say thank you for your leadership on most secure. Voice is so powerful and bringing people hope understand. Of deuces. And health conditions that we can meet just like we do don't abuse and other challenges. And it's when we remove that stigma. Ran around middle wholesome people. You never go week without fixing a broken arm Berardino read to win depression and anxiety. Now adapt to fight it's always so good to see you thanks for account and then eventually. One of the most hopeful things that I think we can do on our program like this is actually hear from people with lived experienced people who have walked through. The journey of dealing with a brain disorder. A behavioral disorder are mental illness. And I am so thrilled to bring in Jay Strasser because he is with a group that I think is providing phenomenal support. How are your signs and symptoms appeared and when you really knew that you need some help. So way I was and went in the military when I was seventeen. And it was in the military for six years. And went to desert storm and when I came back and some tissues and sharing. And sort of drinking a lot. And then I got out of military and they had sent me a mental health after an incident where two officers prescribed him medication. Had meat of the group and then I went to in patient treatment for thirty days where again. People are taught me what to do and and I'm eyesight is orders and is seen as something had a choice and now. So when I got out I wanna nothing to do with little off I can imagine that's the way it was presented to you almost the PT EST and being ordered around right break. What helped in Europe covering. So for now eight years ago eight years ago I was I went to the VA for a to see my my premier provider. For my knee and he was a nurse practitioner. And had seen my medical records and seen that I had been on medication. And that's how that worked for me and I Coleman didn't and work from Meehan and he shared with me today he had. That it did work for him either and he attacked his partner and destroyed his apartment and I looked at him because he was a nurse practitioner. And I respected him in and knew how hard it was for him to get to that position. And it just blew my mind because I'd. No I was never in treatments again those that are doing the amount golf again. And I left there with an appointment to medal haul off and new prescription. And I walked outside met my wife is that what the hell just happened. Yeah isn't it remarkable. Is it remarkable when a human being shares that they've also had this journey yankees in my life yeah. It's that powerful. Just someone someone. Acknowledging hey this is really common I've dealt with that before medication can do this at this but there's lots of other alternatives for you. You you have that conversation now probably every day with people who are coming into unity behavior health care senator and one of their things that I think is amazing. Is that unity has decided to provide people with lived experience so that. Others concede you can get to see can be on the other side of it and you can be just been walking around like any other person yeah it's amazing I am also down next to somebody in. So look at me a little strange amount weren't scrubs and I'm not where lab coat like a provider and they ask but I do know I don't know Obama appear than I've been in the hospital. Also and they kind of take a deep breath and relax and their shareholders can relax and and then they ask of from a volunteer. Stuff Yahoo! nine it paid for this and exactly he can team and you have one of the most. Incredibly important jobs thank you so much for doing. I know in our families. Circumstance of we've been greeted by somebody who actually. Gone through crisis and came out the other side looking as healthy you do that we would've also breathe a little more deeply selves thank you today huge. I wanna talk about folk time in particular because it provides this amazing experience for people. In terms of storytelling because essentially world just keep men sitting around the fire and only in different clothes and driving different cars these days right and it. What do you do on the nights when you get together with other people in Polk time. We have a lot of different things we do you own they're swing social programs and one. That are open during the day and then. We have a lot of different fundraisers is that we do on. We have one Muppets and the helium comedy club south and oranges. I'm pretty excited about going to that come I love comedy I love laughter and I think it's pulled me through some hard times and ten. So will be doing that Pearson. I'm in October and I think just the biggest thing is that you know knowing other people are out there who have the same experience. Or similar experiences I have. If you think about the statistics one in four people are going to suffer from a major mental health crisis and then you look around in a crowded smaller movie theater and discount off. A lot more people that are walking around having dealt with something like this in their lives than are willing to actually talk about it. It is and isn't that I think that stigma is huge and I think we're fortunate that. Great now there's a lot of different people working. Through that state and her or for that to get rid of that stigma you know home. And Yang a disservice statistic that. 20% of all the people to commit suicide of veterans which. Kind of worries me a little bit because that you know and probably won't respond but I don't go talk to them. If you are could say something to somebody who's listening in kind La there's about a on the air and he's actually talking about his medal haul. I think even though it's hard to ask for help. It's its own. That's probably the best thing and I have ever done and and one of the reasons I'm a full time is because again to be myself and again go to work and be myself. Even from having a hard day and then. Everywhere also worked out soles social work for. Since 2005. Then at home. I would go to work. To help other people. And I didn't go to work and support people and they support me now the people that are marked with support me as much as I'm supporting them. Like go to work and Sam I'm not located day. And everywhere else I had to put on the facade. So as I can take care for everybody else knows campaign. So I'm hoping that your message sort of resonates to every business owner how much. Healthier their employee base would be if you allow people actually Sam not to and so on need to mental health thank. Yeah I didn't really illegally sources. And I get a call in and say man don't want to they can get out of bed instead of stick to my finger at me through look I'm not feeling well I thought and and and that's okay it's okay that I'm not okay that they and I can come in tomorrow. If you're just joining us today I'm Sheila Hamilton work I'm listening Portland and he's a unity supervisor and he is of course one of their incredible members. A folks time. I spent a lot of time multifamily have a granddaughter that's four years old and he keeps me very busy yeah and the home. He has spent a lot of time with my family and I are you taking out culmination of Medicaid medication and therapy that helps you stay sort of balanced out. USA I personally take medication and offense the answer for every one right and I am involved in my if my therapy. I wasn't always a pain when I would go to. Troops and stuff I didn't wanna be there. And I when it. Learn anything don't take any tools away now. I wanna be a part of that and I wanna learn something from it so who come. And why not take everything with they're suggesting that there's parts of that the I taken. I think that's changed to not changed that gave an adamant that there's practitioner or that there's practitioner shared with me his story. Is there. Any part of you that feels like you've kind of been blessed to have dealt with this challenge in your lifetime. Yes at. Like eight years ago I didn't see that but now. I'm just the way everything fell into place and throwing it in the job full time. Filling that's sort of exactly what's happened and then I get to talk to people every day who are struggling. And let them know that there's open. That we can we can get through things together. Part of our plea today is askew to actually share your experience with other people. Because honestly when you say I dealt with the mental health challenge who would know then who would ever ever suspect in the Fred Meyer checkout me. After reading your background I thought she is the perfect person who not only eliminate the state Melanie talk about brain house but begin. Having a completely different attitude. About living with a brain disorder. And one of the things that amazed me after I read that your an international best seller in your this coach for all of these famous athletes and artists and celebrities. Is that I noticed. That sure in a wheelchair. Yeah I've got mine up to teach twenty years and I ran my cynical from. Ninety from the way you change. There was this huge stink student to undertake or IQ and that. A very different way of looking hat. Tuchman impoundment and developing speeches. I liked what I don't anyway. How let. Because the couldn't deeply peek at what cost through it and not have to find a different way it did it. I need to execute the market intentions for. Output. For me it was without people taking personal responsibility. For themselves. Emotional well being and that folder and I'm having collective responsibility. Fool the whole that the rest of the style and the children. And back technology I now use that he did not thousands of people. It's been poor it's easy to incorporated today that they have Sydney with a gift that can't be a change. But it was sick people. Think can be seen because one school. See vindictive the best 100 schools sitting in the ones that why mr. Martin. Try to explain the central tenants of this program because I found a miraculous when I was reading about it. And I think. But the number of principles. On defense group ethnic that we do to. Even choosing. To. I need them announcing. That comic. And he was checked. You have to tune in and how do you. Folks can. And certainly did the Tennessee. With the physical disability people. And mentally defective. I let you get past the capacity to. To think you know. How do you deal with that it's. I don't keep rule or to. Not make that Decision Day in the light that can. You know use of something very potent in that when you said unless he you can't think for yourself. When we're talking about people who have brain disorders they think that there's a big misconception and that they are the mental illness that there is no self reliance or ability to actually. Make decisions upon their round. I hope that. That individual. I don't know if somewhat with the parents and school children that I can. Brain disorder is included food is that one of the conversations I hacked but yeah. Or is it you know can't that it going to dump it to say to. You can and sure in the right. Environment in which to give a to make mistakes to find ways to work that day. I'm support them through. Different. An attempt to do. That in view that. Doesn't announce. They didn't they didn't signal by identity dignity but I think you'll perfection but it does she and that ticket thing. If you're just joining us today on I'm listening I'm Sheila Hamilton your host and we're talking with Tina Gardner she's an international best seller coaches you've heard she's front. A wildly successful school. And I was really attracted TU IndyCar program to Beijing because I wanted this half hour to be focused on the hope and the essential tenants of recovery. Your system in the way the U coach people really includes so many of the things I believe that even with the limitations that might be. In your brain or in your body we still have magnificent capacity. I'm Sydney it's about focusing on what it can get the ball but what he column then all of my second corporation pat hate that it backs century. Oh all I could not back to school. The press like it and stand like school but the second time I could call. It company has not left a couple filled the capitol I could not make Katrina couldn't do anything but what can you read. What made that decision by date not a coming out of hospital I was gonna go back to school. And people so I was glad to be compelled to explode like that that they. We talk about is cutting back a couple of pounds to weaken as well have been packed full content to three. Why because I was completely get to it. Britain school Ike which is not bright and announced Peyton they've my not hide people that include actually. And did say that things carry things. A school are important this able to pool. I would think sixty that you didn't say it. So I choose to look at what I could give me. And then like most of and I've met the most amazing people at the time people that could say that can detect it and people that Chris Hague. He's thing. And nothing else and I think we're anything you'll rule. It is dependent you would continue to have been accused of bountiful wildlife. Because everybody can use their identities. I thought that police about themselves and if you think I'm looking out on what poured in all part of the rich enough trouble in line. It up beneath that can keep you stop the ultimate team won't cut that lead but it you find that the bank conditions suit. And pushed and that's bad news. Didn't really happen. Anthony I think Paul. On Jeremy. Pop pop pop talked about spiritually to them to recognize. No it couldn't. Don't you be doing it that doesn't. Actually in saying nobody. I need them well and then died while I would say one of the great things I have is that when you reach out help the people. You'll see him so I think that needs to it to feel like I'm. All apparently content to take off so I'm that the and flew in Mississippi. And bring great sense of achievements and actions. I'm on agreed to an old fulfill these. Scenic artist thank you once again for joining us today on I'm listening I'm Sheila Hamilton your host making a great day. If you or in need of help call the national suicide hotline at 1802738255. And for more information on Sheila or the resources she offers contact her. At Sheila Hamilton dot com.